Hank Ricci Posted July 21, 2023 at 04:22 AM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 04:22 AM FORMAT: Who banned you?Paymne What is your in-game name and Steam name?Horse Ankles/hvy trooper hank What was your ban message and how long were you banned? (Screenshot of the ban message when you attempt to join) What were you banned for? (What did you do?) script to advoid afk kick and farming faction flag pay What is your Steam ID and Discord ID STEAM_0:0:174308542 / methamphetamine_maniac Please provide any evidence you have regarding the incident that led up to your ban. I set my auto clicker thingy on during my lunch break so when I returned I would be able to play without rotting through loading screens. 2hrs later when I came back home I saw I was tied in spawn by a raider called sir W-something. With caps mugged off me and items taken out of my inventory then I took a step out of spawn and I was hoisted up into the sky and told I would be getting banned. I told the staff I simply had the script on so I wouldn't have to wait through any loading screen or get kicked from the server while "Afk" in the F1 as my PC is very slow and I got shitter-net. He tried to say we never kick people afk in the F1 but that simply isn't true as I've seen it happen before. Also the cap point farming thingy was a unnecessary addition as the server literally had 19 people last time I checked and NCR had 3 people (me afking, and two off duty and out of armor enlisted boys) I don't know what sorta faction benefit was I farming afk. What 2 caps from my charisma and the 0 flags NCR had taken every 3 minutes? I think that part was added to increase the ban severity as the initial problem wasn't that serious to begin with after I explained my reasoning with the first staff who took my ticket. Why should you be un-banned? I didn't know it was that serious and I simply wanted to have my game ready and everything setup for me so when I came back home I could do some gaming before hitting the gym . I'll make sure to read up on the rules before I return to avoid future server infractions! 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 21, 2023 at 02:47 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 02:47 PM There is a reason you get kicked for afk, you purposely avoided it. 1. Exploiting the game system is strictly prohibited. You've probably collected 20k+ caps from afk farming. I know with all those cap points you can get up to like what? 350? 500? Noob ncr think they can break all the rules cuz they are good guys 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ricci Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:19 PM Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:19 PM On 7/21/2023 at 10:47 AM, Bongo said: There is a reason you get kicked for afk, you purposely avoided it. 1. Exploiting the game system is strictly prohibited. You've probably collected 20k+ caps from afk farming. I know with all those cap points you can get up to like what? 350? 500? Noob ncr think they can break all the rules cuz they are good guys The most you can make from cap point is 212 caps every 3ish minutes ASSUMING your faction holds every single flag and if you think NCR held every flag with only 3 people online you are schizophrenic. Even during peak hours no one is making 20k from PASSIVE income. On top of that you literally mugged me for caps and took all the items you could off me knowing damn well i was AFK and called staff on me afterward does that make you a saint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:25 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:25 PM On 7/21/2023 at 11:19 AM, Hank Ricci said: The most you can make from cap point is 212 caps every 3ish minutes ASSUMING your faction holds every single flag and if you think NCR held every flag with only 3 people online you are schizophrenic. Even during peak hours no one is making 20k from PASSIVE income. On top of that you literally mugged me for caps and took all the items you could off me knowing damn well i was AFK and called staff on me afterward does that make you a saint? Obviously you weren't afk. Staff gave me the OK to mug you. You also seem to know exactly how much you would make off afk farming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ricci Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:40 PM Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:40 PM (edited) On 7/21/2023 at 11:25 AM, Bongo said: Obviously you weren't afk. Staff gave me the OK to mug you. You also seem to know exactly how much you would make off afk farming Unless you know how much you make from flags shut up already you are just rambling like a geriatric acting like I made 100000000 million caps for afking 2hrs when server was dead. AS STATED ABOVE the motive for afk so I could readily play the server and not have to load up anything. You are hung up on the passive caps when it wasn’t even something that happened because NCR had 0 flags held. I learned my lesson and that’s it I don’t know what sorta kick you get out of escalating the pettiest problems. Edited July 21, 2023 at 03:44 PM by Hank Ricci Edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:56 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:56 PM exploiting -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:59 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 03:59 PM (edited) On 7/21/2023 at 11:40 AM, Hank Ricci said: Unless you know how much you make from flags shut up already you are just rambling like a geriatric acting like I made 100000000 million caps for afking 2hrs when server was dead. AS STATED ABOVE the motive for afk so I could readily play the server and not have to load up anything. You are hung up on the passive caps when it wasn’t even something that happened because NCR had 0 flags held. I learned my lesson and that’s it I don’t know what sorta kick you get out of escalating the pettiest problems. -1 exploited You pulled the schizophrenic card I'm waiting for the pedophile card now. A schizophrenic pedophile is usually what people say Edited July 21, 2023 at 04:01 PM by Bongo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ricci Posted July 21, 2023 at 04:18 PM Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 04:18 PM On 7/21/2023 at 11:59 AM, Bongo said: -1 exploited You pulled the schizophrenic card I'm waiting for the pedophile card now. A schizophrenic pedophile is usually what people say Love the deflection bongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 21, 2023 at 04:22 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 04:22 PM (edited) On 7/21/2023 at 12:18 PM, Hank Ricci said: Love the deflection bongo It's sir to you. SIR BONGO. NOT BONGO. SIR BONGO Edited July 21, 2023 at 04:25 PM by Bongo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 21, 2023 at 04:27 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 04:27 PM (edited) Once again, just like the player report I have. Intentions pave the road to hell. I actually know how much you make off flags I play ncr quite often actually. PRIVATE FIRST CLASS WEASLY YOUNG REPORTING FOR PVP Edited July 21, 2023 at 04:29 PM by Bongo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truepatriot Posted July 21, 2023 at 05:02 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 05:02 PM i do this all the time!!! +1 to free this guy!!! he did nuffi nwrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beartrap Lewis Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:19 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:19 PM +1 hank is retarded and cmon what is he actually exploiting?? he can still be mugged and if he really only does this while he is getting lunch then I dont see the problem plus if you are really that worried about flag pay being exploited just nerf it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:35 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:35 PM +1 to lowering it, it’s still not allowed but I wouldn’t say it’s severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:50 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:50 PM (edited) I did the math on the low end of faction pay. Judging that it's every 3 minutes. At 3 hours a day. 3 hours 180 minutes 200-250 caps every 3 minutes. 180x250 15,000 caps. User had 78000 ish caps. Correct me if I'm wrong but two days of doing this for 3 hours a day is 15k a day. 30k every 2 days Edited July 21, 2023 at 06:53 PM by Bongo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderWolf Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:55 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:55 PM (edited) On 7/21/2023 at 11:50 AM, Bongo said: I did the math on the low end of faction pay. Judging that it's every 3 minutes. At 3 hours a day. 3 hours 180 minutes 200-250 caps every 3 minutes. 180x250 15,000 caps. User had 78000 ish caps. Correct me if I'm wrong but two days of doing this for 3 hours a day is 15k a day. 30k every 2 days Had to add onto the math, mind you the fact he said that 3 players for NCR were on at the time, but assume that to be the most in the worst case scenario. (Edit Note and I checked: the max for ALL caps points IS 212 Most.) We haven't even got evidence from staff yet to determine if he even GARNERED that much money in the period of 3 hours. If they have logs to determine who's cap transferring and BM transactions to prevent Vendor Abuse, SURELY they would've had longs on every single player to determine how much they're making. Real Math: Variables: 3 Hours = 180 Minutes 200 - 212 Caps on Average for max cap points 212 x 180 (for bongo's sake for the most estimate assuming NCR is lucky to hold onto the 5 flag points for the most amount) = 38,160 / per minute obtaining money (3)) 12,720. Bongo's Claim: "2 days doing this" 12,720 x 2 = 25,440 MAX. Edited July 21, 2023 at 07:03 PM by ThunderWolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synth Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:57 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 06:57 PM im sorry 15,000 caps??? wtf am i doing wrong if cores get that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 21, 2023 at 07:00 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 07:00 PM (edited) On 7/21/2023 at 2:55 PM, ThunderWolf said: Had to add onto the math, mind you the fact he said that 3 players for NCR were on at the time, but assume that to be the most in the worst case scenario. We haven't even got evidence from staff yet to determine if he even GARNERED that much money in the period of 3 hours. If they have logs to determine who's cap transferring and BM transactions to prevent Vendor Abuse, SURELY they would've had longs on every single player to determine how much they're making. He already admitted to it and gave us the numbers to even do the math. No need to investigate when someone snitches on themselves I'd like to add. I have no clue who this player is ooc or ic. I just believe the rules exist for a reason. This kind of stuff breaks the economy Edited July 21, 2023 at 07:02 PM by Bongo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderWolf Posted July 21, 2023 at 07:05 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 07:05 PM On 7/21/2023 at 12:00 PM, Bongo said: He already admitted to it and gave us the numbers to even do the math. No need to investigate when someone snitches on themselves I'd like to add. I have no clue who this player is ooc or ic. I just believe the rules exist for a reason. This kind of stuff breaks the economy Had to reedit, that's the max if theoretically if NCR had only 3 players holding all cap points. The only factors I would need is say Payne's claim and the cap logs. Before anyone asks: Yes. I was proficient in Calculus AP (Grade A) and got a C in college level Statistics (Cause reading) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderWolf Posted July 21, 2023 at 07:10 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 07:10 PM (edited) On 7/21/2023 at 11:57 AM, Synth said: im sorry 15,000 caps??? wtf am i doing wrong if cores get that much That and the other factor is spending, cause I know the amount I calculate wouldn't be the full amount considering all other factors that hinder it: Examples: Faction Food = 1 cap, determinant per faction cause I don't know Legions, BOS, FOA, etc. Ammo per gun = 1-3 caps per box, also determining the amount to place in a magazine that is either small or excessively large is also determinant (EX. if Browning had a large magazine size.) Equipment Spending = 5 - 300 Caps; Grapping Hooks for raids, Smoke Grenades, Turrets for Outposts, etc. Binge Spending = Any Amount; Donating to factions/wastelanders, Black Market, Merchant Factions, Faction Contracts/Deals Bong0 (Yes You cause Mugging) = 350 caps per 30 minutes if successfully kidnapped. 200 to FOA instead if they decide to brand you (which I feel is pointless since FOA would get money, hindering raiders) Realistically they wouldn't make THAT much, but that's if spending is involved, I have around 7k on my NCR Character, simply through moderating my spending essentially. Edited July 21, 2023 at 07:16 PM by ThunderWolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderWolf Posted July 21, 2023 at 07:26 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 07:26 PM (edited) @Synth It's not really the fact that "Cores make to much" simply cause I like where the currently economy stands for the server: x-10 the amount from CGC which is a MASSIVE difference, and simply lack of purchasing incentive. The only factions I see benefit besides cores (Especially Legion since bonuses from Slavery and Mugging) is Raiders, Unity, and FOA because of the Mugging and Branding mechanics. MEF - Jack shit for profit (Unless they decide to mug too since unlike BOS they can't sell tech) Survivalists - exception cause they're survivalists. DR - Justice Warriors that don't seek money. VG - Partial Inactivity, See GR GR - both suffer from MAJOR MONOPOLY COMPETITION: Other players offers on the BM competition theirs. THAT and high end vendors that are automated. House - Jack shit to sell besides their weapon high ends. PLA - Communists. Marked Men - Only Brand, no profit. Zetans/Aliens/??? - wtf. My Solution: If they do implement the gambling system. Add a lunchbox loot crate system in the future. NO MICRO TRANACTIONS. CAPS ONLY. It would incentivize cores using their caps more often. OR Add a Wastelander white-list bounty board. Gives incentives for Wastelanders to do dirty work for factions AND disregards the need for mercenary factions.... *Talon Company* Edited July 21, 2023 at 07:30 PM by ThunderWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ricci Posted July 21, 2023 at 08:30 PM Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 08:30 PM (edited) What it boils down to is this was THE FIRST time I had my script on for 3 hours I don't know the this conversation has went towards solving how much mon On 7/21/2023 at 2:50 PM, Bongo said: I did the math on the low end of faction pay. Judging that it's every 3 minutes. At 3 hours a day. 3 hours 180 minutes 200-250 caps every 3 minutes. 180x250 15,000 caps. User had 78000 ish caps. Correct me if I'm wrong but two days of doing this for 3 hours a day is 15k a day. 30k every 2 days 1. no faction holds all flags on maps for hours on end 2. this was the first time I was afking and NCR had 0 flags held and only 3 ppl online including me your points are null I don't know why you are trying to draw it out like I've made millions on some game breaking exploit. This was the first time I went AFK and on top of that the server/NCR was dead we were not making money. You are trying to portray this as some master economy breaking exploit when you know damn well its not. If did something besides constantly mug people I'd think you would have as much money as me and gain more enjoyment from the server ! Id love for Staff to pull caps logs for that day to show how stupid this claim is if anything I'd lost caps because the 350 you took off me would've been offset the mere "pennies" worth of caps I may have made because of charisma bonus. Edited July 21, 2023 at 08:37 PM by Hank Ricci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 21, 2023 at 08:35 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 08:35 PM (edited) On 7/21/2023 at 4:30 PM, Hank Ricci said: What it boils down to is this was THE FIRST time I had my script on for 3 hours I don't know the this conversation has went towards solving how much mon 1. no faction holds all flags on maps for hours on end 2. this was the first time I was afking and NCR had 0 flags held and only 3 ppl online including me your points are null I don't know why you are trying to draw it out like I've made millions on some game breaking exploit. This was the first time I went AFK and on top of that the server/NCR was dead we were not making money. You are trying to portray this as some master economy breaking exploit when you know damn well its not. If did something besides constantly mug people I'd think you would have as much money as me and gain more enjoyment from the server ! I actually have more caps then you bozo. I very much enjoy the server the way I play! I main raiders, side quest the ncr and fuck around on my waster with rp!! You told Payne in the sit that you do it all the time. So rethink my friend. Back to the point, you broke the rules!! Edited July 21, 2023 at 08:40 PM by Bongo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ricci Posted July 21, 2023 at 08:46 PM Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 08:46 PM On 7/21/2023 at 4:35 PM, Bongo said: I actually have more caps then you bozo. You told Payne in the sit that you do it all the time. So rethink my friend. Yippie you have more caps than me because you rot away constantly mugging players are you proud? Secondly that other remark is false I never spoke to Payne the another admin handled the ticket you made and Payne was the banning admin. If I did this all the time I would've been banned previously which I haven't because THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME. By all means please continue to exaggerate the situation without evidence its humorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 21, 2023 at 09:09 PM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 09:09 PM On 7/21/2023 at 4:46 PM, Hank Ricci said: Yippie you have more caps than me because you rot away constantly mugging players are you proud? Secondly that other remark is false I never spoke to Payne the another admin handled the ticket you made and Payne was the banning admin. If I did this all the time I would've been banned previously which I haven't because THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME. By all means please continue to exaggerate the situation without evidence its humorous. Bro, idc just don't break rules go have ur batman arch while ur banned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ricci Posted July 21, 2023 at 09:18 PM Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 09:18 PM On 7/21/2023 at 5:09 PM, Bongo said: Bro, idc just don't break rules go have ur batman arch while ur banned Cope, you care enough to make reports and tickets over small infractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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