Striderzz Ban Appeal

[Hank Ricci]

crazy slop ban reason

[w.i.ll.i.am]

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Edited April 12, 2025 at 12:56 PM by w.i.ll.i.am
helolo

[Rhys]

On 4/12/2025 at 12:14 AM, Kassandra said:

Rhys

i dindu nuffin

[NaeNaeThePainAway]

+1 even if they do own a femchar only slop faction perma ban over posting a gooners reddit is wild, truely the divide has fallen protecting gooners 

[Eopsin]

Posting of a social media account, unless it contains personal info, isn't doxxing, lol. Why do we keep making these ban reasons have super crazy titles like doxxing or grooming or w/e when it is actually really innocuous? She posted some dude's reddit gooner shit, give her a little ban, or a platform ban (as in, on the platform she posted it, such as forums) and then move on.

When I posted the dreaded comment I wasn't permabanned off the server (though I still get punished for mentioning it sometimes...), granted that was all posting of DMs rather than any social media accounts. I was given a (rather unjustified in my opinion) temporary forum ban.

I've known striderzz for some time and I can say that she is prone to emotional action or outbursts, and she was dealing with her faction that she was promised (a promise that was never fulfilled) being implemented prematurely and having to immediately fight the entire server and then her members immediately being freaks and making the mental image had everyone into a true image. Day one. 

Then along comes a suggestion to remove her faction entirely. She is obviously angry, and sees a guy on it that she knows is a gooner criticizing her faction for being a gooner faction. So she goes, "fuck it, I'll show everyone you are a gooner!" This all, of course, being day one or two or whatever.

Don't forget where we came from or who this community is full of.

 

I'm gonna be honest, @Striderzz, you are gonna be disliked by a lot of people because people generally don't like the faction idea and see it as needless bloat that fulfills gooner fantasies. This is without the dev comp controversy. Gonna be a hellish time proving that Twin Mothers has a reason to exist and is also good for the server. This means people are gonna go after you on every platform because this gmod get shit serious

 

Anyways, as for the ban, just make it a short ban or a longer forum ban. Make punishments consistent, as I would hate to see the eventuality of posting discord DMs being considered private information as they were private messages or shit like that. Where is the line drawn? I really feel like it should be drawn as "right where you did what striderzz did is where punishment STARTS" not where punishment ends. Dude doesn't even care, he was entirely unphased, if the victim in the situation doesn't care then the ban should be significantly lower. Give her a week or something to cool off or like a month off the forums, not hard.

Edited April 12, 2025 at 10:31 PM by Eopsin

[Kassandra]

On 4/12/2025 at 8:48 AM, Eopsin said:

Dude doesn't even care, he was entirely unphased, if the victim in the situation doesn't care then the ban should be significantly lower.

Time to refute more stuff:
I do care, I expressed that earlier in thread. I wasn't "unphased" either. I'm just kinda used to this happening anytime. I was already dealing with being hated/harassed by people who happened to be tlalocan players before the stuff that happened in the petition post so I was pretty aware that this stuff was going to come back anyways. During the petition post, I was more upset that the insinuations of pedophilia then being outed as a gooner. I think people obsessing over whether someone likes porn or not is dumb frankly. We all look at it, its a normal thing to do.

Hell, I was basically told not to join House by Frost a day before I was informed about striderzz being banned, no shade to him he's cool, because the MINUTE I joined House Discord, people spam-dm'ed Frost to not recruit me.

People were given my reddit as proof I was a danger to children or whatever, and from that, I've been blacklisted from tlalocan, etc. That's also kinda why I stopped playing on the server. Its not fun to be basically persona non grata for doing essentially nothing other then existing.
I frankly do not like that customs can use their blacklists so freely whereas cores can't. If we want customs and cores to be on some kind of level of balance, making customs have to have actual reasons to blacklist someone would be that best step. I only add this now because this is what I was dealing with before striderzz ever did ANYTHING. People in Tlalocan voted to blacklist me for the same things that would later be what striderzz uses against me. Therefore I think we should strike at the source of the issue more so then just hit one or two folks who had partaken.

I do agree though that the punishment doesn't meet the crime. She did something on the forums, and was only able to do so because others were already doing it first.

 

 

On 4/12/2025 at 8:29 AM, NaeNaeThePainAway said:

+1 even if they do own a femchar only slop faction perma ban over posting a gooners reddit is wild, truely the divide has fallen protecting gooners 

I agree the perma-ban should be changed, because banning someone through the server for stuff done on the forums is pretty silly.

I don't think Divide has fallen because they're "protecting a gooner". I would expect that if ANYONE was attacked or harassed using things as harmless as someone's porn habits, that staff would step in. Hell when I was told about the ban, my reaction was more about the speed at which the staff worked. I expected it to be AS soon as the offending actions were done.

 

Edited April 12, 2025 at 05:35 PM by Kassandra
Wanted to add more explanation

[Marski]

When I did this, I got community banned almost instantly and couldn't make an appeal for almost 7 months. . .
(That was only after I started talking to divide Management 3 months before the unban, so if I didn't, it would probably have been a year.)

Edited April 12, 2025 at 07:18 PM by Marski

[Eopsin]

On 4/12/2025 at 2:15 PM, Marski said:

When I did this, I got community banned almost instantly and couldn't make an appeal for almost 7 months. . .
(That was only after I started talking to divide Management 3 months before the unban, so if I didn't, it would probably have been a year.)

yippee

 

maybe now the punishments will be regulated? probably not

[Toni0]

Ya thats a stupid reason for a perma, let alone a ban in general

[ThePhalicMenace]

On 4/11/2025 at 9:39 PM, Oliver said:

@Gouda4334 has called me by my irl name on server multiple times please permban him too and @Mikvik harasses me by bringing up my alleged homosexual past with femchars

You have literally doxxed my hometown because your were trying to do it to someone else and confused the two places. 

[ThePhalicMenace]

On 4/12/2025 at 3:15 PM, Marski said:

When I did this, I got community banned almost instantly and couldn't make an appeal for almost 7 months. . .
(That was only after I started talking to divide Management 3 months before the unban, so if I didn't, it would probably have been a year.)

Aye bro. They called you all sorts of shit but never a liar. 

[ThePhalicMenace]

In reality, you were pissed for getting called out for gooner shit on a Gmod server. So went out of your way to find someone's shit to "gotcha" moment them. I'd much rather have the sub reddit gooner in a community made for the hedonistic bullshit than, you encouraging it at worst, and at best being ignorant to it on a Garry Mod server thay children can get on. Inb4 "children access reddit" this isn't an ERP server. Perma ban, little much but what it did was show no one is above the rules. It's obviously going to get reduced.  +1 to reduction. 

[Kobrakiddmeow]

This server's toxic lol

I think we should focus on roleplaying more than getting into OOC. Let's disable OOC globally and keep only roleplay channels on the forums :)))

[Marski]

On 4/13/2025 at 11:11 AM, Kobrakiddmeow said:

we should focus on roleplaying more than getting into OOC. Let's disable OOC g

no u bum

[Kassandra]

I wanna add as my final thought:

Given some more time to think:

There are people who do deserve to be punished more then Striderzz. While Striderzz did something wrong, her wrong is not worth this perma, whereas those in the original petition thread insinuating I was a danger to kids or a pedophile do deserve, honestly, the maximum punishment.

They, I was informed, were only punished with forum accounts being stripped for a week, iirc, and that's frankly light compared to a perma-ban for someone who did less to me.

+1 for reduction. I would prefer that this be addressed through conversation between staff and devs and if needs be, myself. And I would rather this ban be given to the people who did frankly, much worse then striderzz.

[Striderzz]

My response to this:

I don't really think forums pertain to ingame, nor should punishment = position of power because I've seen staff higher than me act relatively the same especially from the staff who did ban me, but the toxicity is equal and not diminished. Out of the 2 years I've been staff, I have never received warnings nor bans towards me, this first infraction was very extreme however (removed from staff team and being permabanned). The problem was the infraction I received was not equal to those who did worse on that forums, and it was only harsh because of the position of power.

I'm very aware as a Moderator/Developer of the server, I should be more professional, that I can work on, but I can name numerous times someone from the SC team has acted way more extreme than this who have not received as harsh punishment as myself. I know I'm not exempt from ruling and should be treated equal to any other player, but if that were true those who have acted way out of pocket and more harsher than me on the forums should've been punished just as equal. 

I also did not instigate further on the forums myself, and backed away from continuing toxicity. For those who accused of Pedophilia and Blacklist from their faction for their history, I do not have any say regarding that as I was not apart of that discussion nor really wanted to be.

In my honest opinion, the ban itself seemed very biased due to my past history. Not even 24hrs later a member of the staff team began to make extreme comments on trans people (i.e saying the slur while including my name in the conversation) icly through advert while going unpunished; If we're going to be giving staff harsh punishments for toxicity, enforce it. There has also been times relating to the 'doxxing' part where certain staff actually have all my dox information saved in their personal discords within the community yet go unpunished.

There has been times where I have been harassed within the community and nothing has been done of it, infact, there's been many staff excusing it. This includes leaking all my personal socials, my ip, and personal conversations. So where does the line draw?

In conclusion, while the punishment for toxicity is a bit extreme, yes, I do apologize for that, the punishment was hypocritical in my honest opinion and over-the-top. If you are going to enforce staff with the ruling of toxicity, be equal and fair to every staff.

Edited April 13, 2025 at 07:28 PM by Striderzz

[Vikus]

Giving me flashbacks to Surge bans..

[Kassandra]

On 4/13/2025 at 12:15 PM, Striderzz said:

My response to this:

I don't really think forums pertain to ingame, nor should punishment = position of power because I've seen staff higher than me act relatively the same especially from the staff who did ban me, but the toxicity is equal and not diminished. Out of the 2 years I've been staff, I have never received warnings nor bans towards me, this first infraction was very extreme however (removed from staff team and being permabanned). The problem was the infraction I received was not equal to those who did worse on that forums, and it was only harsh because of the position of power.

I'm very aware as a Moderator/Developer of the server, I should be more professional, that I can work on, but I can name numerous times someone from the SC team has acted way more extreme than this who have not received as harsh punishment as myself. I know I'm not exempt from ruling and should be treated equal to any other player, but if that were true those who have acted way out of pocket and more harsher than me on the forums should've been punished just as equal. 

I also did not instigate further on the forums myself, and backed away from continuing toxicity. For those who accused of Pedophilia and Blacklist from their faction for their history, I do not have any say regarding that as I was not apart of that discussion nor really wanted to be.

In my honest opinion, the ban itself seemed very biased due to my past history. Not even 24hrs later a member of the staff team began to make extreme comments on trans people (i.e saying the slur while including my name in the conversation) icly through advert while going unpunished; If we're going to be giving staff harsh punishments for toxicity, enforce it. There has also been times relating to the 'doxxing' part where certain staff actually have all my dox information saved in their personal discords within the community yet go unpunished.

There has been times where I have been harassed within the community and nothing has been done of it, infact, there's been many staff excusing it. This includes leaking all my personal socials, my ip, and personal conversations. So where does the line draw?

In conclusion, while the punishment for toxicity is a bit extreme, yes, I do apologize for that, the punishment was hypocritical in my honest opinion and over-the-top. If you are going to enforce staff with the ruling of toxicity, be equal and fair to every staff.

Honestly this post alone has convinced me that Striderzz seems to have gotten the shit end of the stick.

She's correct on several points: She didn't further harass me, and when things reached problematic levels, she backed away, as one should. 100%, staff of ALL ranks and caliber should be held to a standard of being better then that. While I myself have not seen any instances of staff doing things hypocritically or otherwise promoting toxicity, I have seen it across all of Divide from players from various factions. I remember being told by a staff, specifically epsilon, that Divide is entering a new era: One where people are not harassed for their protected characteristics (sex/gender, race, etc). This so far has been untrue, as I have experienced this first-hand with regards to members of tlalocan HC as well as many others' focus on my being nonbinary (which they mistake for being trans, they're separate but equal forms of gender identity).

Doxxing is not using already-known information to harass someone. Striderzz did not dox me, no one did. I know for a fact how striderzz came onto my reddit because the actual perps (if this was a crime) admitted to it in the original comments to the petition to remove twin mothers thread. Rhys found my twitch (linked to my discord because of twitch subscriber benefits), grabbed its username, put it in google, and from there found a reddit. Any claims that I linked it to them, or otherwise had it exposed, are false.

They then used this information, as well as later incidents (me calling one of their members a drone ICly, my calculator character, my dming HC to see why my born ins were being denied) to blacklist me from their faction, citing me as a "danger to children". Rhys went as far as to say, "I pray that you're not in a faction with robots or children in it" in the original petition thread's comments (prior to oliver deleting or wiping those comments off that thread).

Rhys, Ji Shu, and others are the ones MOST culpable and at fault for the transgressions being improperly placed unto Striderzz. It is in my opinion, simply not just that striderzz loses MUCH more then they do, simply because of her status as staff/developer. Frankly, If I was staff, I would have gone after the people leveling pedophilia accusations against the victim, and further using those same thoughts to justify a blacklist. My blacklisting from tlalocan is what has also jaded me against customs because if they're allowed to blacklist people for "being a gooner", then what stops them from blacklisting everyone who isn't a friend to the people already in the faction. Do I want a place in their faction? I did at one point, but unless they apologize to me personally, or suffer appropriate punishments, or the faction otherwise boots the few named that started this, I do not want any place in that faction anymore.

I make no excuses. Yes, I had a reddit where I looked at porn, I am 25 years old, everyone looks at that stuff, it shouldn't be seen as shameful to enjoy porn. Should I have had it under a different user? Maybe, but I've never shied from who I am and I frankly prefer that people acknowledge me for my actions outside of what content I enjoy or don't enjoy. I have since deleted the reddit after suggestions from Rockwell/Jarhead, though the "damage" is already done.

This situation goes against everything I was told by others, by staff, and it goes against what I know personally from experience being a gmod staff for other servers in the past, and it goes against my own sense of morality, justice, and the right way to do things. This situation was people allowing a group of frankly toxic folks to do what they wanted because they paid for a faction from a fallout mod for Hearts of Iron 4, and then punishing the wrong person instead of talking to me (the victim) first and getting a clearer understanding. Had ANYONE came to me before bans were even thought about, which is what you're normally supposed to do as staff (investigate to the fullest, then make a judgement), I could have explained how I felt, who I felt were responsible, and what I wanted to happen. I didn't get that chance at ALL. Instead, I get told by another staff who wasn't even involved that Striderzz got banned off the gmod server, that the people in the actual wrong, got essentially slapped on the wrist, and that I should just not defend myself next time because it doesn't solve anything.

This situation has only deepened my concern that my presence alone on the server causes great risk to myself and to others, since I have indirectly now gotten someone banned, and it wasn't even the right person/people. I have since taken a LoA from the factions I'm a part of and will not be on the server until this situation is resolved in a much more just and proper way. Especially given that I'm basically being targeted by others for joining any factions beyond the two I'm a part of

I believe wholeheartedly that Striderzz should get her staff perms back, be unbanned or have said ban reduced, and that staff should look into situations more deeply then just surface-level.
 

[DrDogler]

Spoiler

Staff look

+1 for unban, I agree a perma is a bit much, and this isn't doxxing, we have all TRUELY seen what doxxing is, like come on, the perma ban seems targeted EPECIALLY by Mikvik, I have seen what happens in and out of game, If we are going to hold these type of standers on the forums then they must also be enforced on the discord and ingame, but do we

WE DO NOT

Why is that, because some staff not naming names are biases, we have staff saying the N-word, calling people pedos, and homos in game and in the discord but nothing is ever done about it, why is is that when once person, a female at that, says something out of pocket all the nimrods go up in arms. I can post some of the proof I got rn, I mean we got photos of staff and players saying N***** and calling people pedos, and homos, tranies like come on people, we are holding a damn triple standard here, 

We do shit ingame, its bannable in discord, then we do shit in discord and its only bannable on the forums, like see the irony here. and im hearing a lot of rumors.. 

now if we wanna get all legal about it then Nothing she did compromises or breaks any of the following elements stated below, its a public forum and if you go onto a public forum you better be ready for people to know you're /Username/ 

(a)In General.—Whoever knowingly makes restricted personal information about a covered person, or a member of the immediate family of that covered person, publicly available—

(1)

with the intent to threaten, intimidate, or incite the commission of a crime of violence against that covered person, or a member of the immediate family of that covered person; or

(2)

with the intent and knowledge that the restricted personal information will be used to threaten, intimidate, or facilitate the commission of a crime of violence against that covered person, or a member of the immediate family of that covered person,

 

[Mikvik]

Accepted

Ban reduced to one month duration and removed from the Staff Team.