NCR Antony Gedsen Player report

[Nirvan86]

What was the player's name?:

SFC Anthony Gadsden

(at least i think it was him to my knowledge)

What is your in-game name?:
Head Assassin Cocus Lentulus

Exact time this incident happened?:

9:50 EST - 5:20 PM my time

Please describe the incident:

I walked behind Antony on his NCR character and knocked him out with my war club and made sure to use my strip bind on him multiple times and even informed him he was stripped in voice chat but he decided to use his m2 browning while stripped to shoot both me and the fiend with me.

Please provide any evidence or proof of the incident:
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iaPsgNhO0yDaiwEVy/d1337dG0s7Hd?invite=cr-MSxCSUMsMTg5ODQ0OTMs

Edited June 30, 2024 at 02:59 PM by Nirvan86

[Commie]

On 6/30/2024 at 9:06 AM, Nirvan86 said:

I walked behind Antony on his NCR character and knocked him out with my war club and made sure to use my strip bind on him multiple times and even informed him he was stripped in voice chat but he decided to use his m2 browning while stripped to shoot both me and the fiend with me.

 

[Kaz]

Well tbf. he didnt wanna

 

[Leon]

unfortunately for you this is NCR RP not Fallout RP so his actions are justified 

[Shephard]

Im gonna be honest, if I heard "drop your snap" id assume the experience ahead of me is mind numbing enough that Id rather risk a ban.

[Bongo]

This dude did it to me before. More than once. Ban him! 

[Hank Ricci]

NCR faction perk 

[Nirvan86]

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/ibjINeBFHVr_wN5Nh/d1337LUwfpVC?invite=cr-MSxZWEQsMTg5ODQ0OTMs

Blud doesn't know how to read the rules...

LTARPed a day after having a player report posted on him

Edited July 1, 2024 at 06:27 PM by Nirvan86

[Mybedissoft]

Yup, that is me but I didn't LTARP. I crashed and I came back but nobody was around by the time I rejoined since the server was dead at those hours. I wasn't trying to avoid anything so apologies if that's how it seems but that just ain't the case and crashing the dozen or so times each day on Divide is just out of my control.

I've never LTARP'd, been kidnapped, mugged, and enslaved many a times and never LTARP'd so don't get it twisted.

You can ask anyone I've ever played with (even those outside of NCR that I've had plenty of encounters with), I'll complain about a situation and all but I never leave to avoid it.

 

But since we're bringing attention to rule breaking, I guess we can speak about how ya left me restrained in NCR base for half an hour while you enslaved the other 2 PA online at the time and had to wait the entire time for their enslavement to be over for one of them to untie me.

Edit: I'm certainly to blame in shooting y'all despite getting knocked, that is my fault for not really paying much attention or realizing I was stripped. It was early morning PST, I was just chilling, listening to music and working on a google doc so my attention wasn't completely focused on the game unfortunately and I didn't notice that you stripped my weapons so that definitely is on me.

Edited July 4, 2024 at 08:40 PM by Mybedissoft
Added line about shooting them despite getting knocked

[Dazed]

Honestly. Looking at the clip and the reply from the guy who left, This really does just seem like a mistake which do happen. That besides the fact if you look in the clip the server is dead, No one is on the server whatsoever. Besides himself and WBOS. Plus if you check the times that they both stated, It's 5 AM Est for the guy who posted this, The server is basically on downtime, In my opinion this just isn't that serious considering he got back on. 

-1 It's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, Especially not at 5 in the morning.

[Macklemore]

On 7/3/2024 at 2:07 PM, Dazed said:

It's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things

maybe if it was an uncommon thing, but NCR, MM and BOS do this very frequently

[Arson]

Omg let me sit in someone's base spawn for 3 hours in SB with a war club, and knock them out.... womp womp bro how about you go out side 

 

[Macklemore]

On 7/3/2024 at 3:31 PM, Arson said:

Omg let me sit in someone's base spawn for 3 hours in SB with a war club, and knock them out.... womp womp bro how about you go out side 

 

 I lost -750 caps 

[Kaz]

On 7/3/2024 at 10:31 PM, Arson said:

Omg let me sit in someone's base spawn for 3 hours in SB with a war club, and knock them out.... womp womp bro how about you go out side 

 

"how about you go out side" spends time on the forums when there is literally not a server. Alright brother. Calm down

[Damzi]

If you look at player statistics, literally only 12 people, at most, were online on the server at the time the report took place (including people connecting, in the menu, or on the server [9:50 EST is 3:50 CET for me, hence the time on the screenshot]). This was when the server was basically dying out and everyone was waiting for information about the wipe, so either there were no players at all or complete chaos with almost FFA mainly on FS.

With all due respect, I doubt you tried to resolve the issue yourself and immediately went straight for the report, especially with the second clip where you could have simply waited to see if he had deliberately left or if it was a game crash. If we were to nitpick at every rule that people have broken on this server, EVEN MINOR MISUNDERSTANDINGS, most would probably be banned by now, ruining overall enjoyment for everyone on the server.

Almost every person who has broken FearRP, ONLY ONCE or in some unusual circumstances, gets verbally warned but since the server had a really low amount of players on it, I highly doubt any staff member was on either. Back in the day, I remember some servers directly stating in their rules that below a certain amount of players, RP is disabled (while I acknowledge Divide doesn't have something like that but truth be told, there still should be some decency maintained within the player base).

From my POV, the report is invalid but we have to leave it to staff to decide.

Edited July 4, 2024 at 10:04 AM by Damzi

[Nirvan86]

On 7/4/2024 at 1:48 AM, Damzi said:

If you look at player statistics, literally only 12 people, at most, were online on the server at the time the report took place (including people connecting, in the menu, or on the server [9:50 EST is 3:50 CET for me, hence the time on the screenshot]). This was when the server was basically dying out and everyone was waiting for information about the wipe, so either there were no players at all or complete chaos with almost FFA mainly on FS.

A lower player count doesn't make breaking the rules allowed, I was kidnapped and mugged when there were only 5 players on but I didn't ruin other people's fun and went on with the roleplay. Downtime isn't a good excuse for breaking the rules.

On 7/4/2024 at 1:48 AM, Damzi said:

With all due respect, I doubt you tried to resolve the issue yourself and immediately went straight for the report, especially with the second clip where you could have simply waited to see if he had deliberately left or if it was a game crash. If we were to nitpick at every rule that people have broken on this server, EVEN MINOR MISUNDERSTANDINGS, most would probably be banned by now, ruining overall enjoyment for everyone on the server.

I don't see how I can resolve him breaking FearRp with no staff members on, I called a sit and waited for 30 minutes but after no response, I decided to make a player report, I don't see what I could have done differently. As for him crashing, He crashed right as soon as I knocked him out which seemed suspicious in my opinion so I added it to the player report.

On 7/4/2024 at 1:48 AM, Damzi said:

Almost every person who has broken FearRP, ONLY ONCE or in some unusual circumstances, gets verbally warned but since the server had a really low amount of players on it, I highly doubt any staff member was on either. Back in the day, I remember some servers directly stating in their rules that below a certain amount of players, RP is disabled (while I acknowledge Divide doesn't have something like that but truth be told, there still should be some decency maintained within the player base).

Many people haven't had a single negative interaction with the staff team such as myself and others, And I don't think making the excuse that "everyone has done it once so it's fine" is valid.

[Damzi]

On 7/5/2024 at 7:22 PM, Nirvan86 said:

A lower player count doesn't make breaking the rules allowed, I was kidnapped and mugged when there were only 5 players on but I didn't ruin other people's fun and went on with the roleplay. Downtime isn't a good excuse for breaking the rules.

Even though I don't fully agree, I can still understand your persepctive on rules should be upheld regardless of the player count. But anyways, my intention was more to provide context about the situation during downtime rather than excusing the behavior.

Also, I don't want to accuse you, but I'm quite certain it might have involved you. Unfortunately, I didn't capture a clip because I didn't feel it necessary at the time. On that same day, both another person and I were killed using a slave collar, had our heads exploded, and were teleported from across the map to the Legion base, where we were put into 20 minutes of slave work, which I believe is an exploit and clearly violates the rules.

I simply didn't report it because I didn't want to screw anyone over and just keep enjoyable experience for everyone. All it takes is some little decency. However, given your stance, I suppose everyone, including me, should be relentless and straight up report even minor violations from now on.

On 7/5/2024 at 7:22 PM, Nirvan86 said:

I don't see how I can resolve him breaking FearRp with no staff members on, I called a sit and waited for 30 minutes but after no response, I decided to make a player report, I don't see what I could have done differently. As for him crashing, He crashed right as soon as I knocked him out which seemed suspicious in my opinion so I added it to the player report.

My suggestion was to try resolving the issue directly with the person involved before escalating it to a report. You could have reached out in chat to clarify the situation, which isn't very demanding. I can understand your suspicion about the crash in 2nd clip though, but you could have waited to see if it was indeed intentional. He had everything equipped so you wouldn't do much either. That said, I have absolutely no issue with you adding it to the report, though saying "Blud doesn't know how to read the rules..." and "LTARPed a day after having a player report posted on him" without being absolutely sure about that...well, let's just keep it as it is.

On 7/5/2024 at 7:22 PM, Nirvan86 said:

Many people haven't had a single negative interaction with the staff team such as myself and others, And I don't think making the excuse that "everyone has done it once so it's fine" is valid.

I completely agree that rule-breaking being acceptable because it happens to everyone is invalid. But that's not what I meant. I emphasized that if it's a single FearRP, not Mass FearRP, and especially if it's not major violation, like on downtime where RP cannot be fully commenced, (meaning e.g. whole factions can't be fully involved with rescuing person from kidnapping/mugging) I believe it usually results in a verbal warning from a staff member, ON FIRST TIME VIOLATION.

Also, let's be honest, this situation would have had minimal to no impact on gameplay, since the most severe consequences would have been either mugging for 750 caps or enslaving for 20 minutes, unless there was a legitimate PK reason involved.

Again, FearRP was definitely violated but I don't believe it was much significant and done in malicious intent (and again, I don't say that, in general, breaking such rules is OK); as for 2nd clip, I'm doubtful, but let's leave it to staff to decide.

Edited July 5, 2024 at 09:28 PM by Damzi

[miff]

-1

[Marski]

[Unity]

On 7/3/2024 at 5:53 PM, Mybedissoft said:

Yup, that is me but I didn't LTARP. I crashed and I came back but nobody was around by the time I rejoined since the server was dead at those hours. I wasn't trying to avoid anything so apologies if that's how it seems but that just ain't the case and crashing the dozen or so times each day on Divide is just out of my control.

I've never LTARP'd, been kidnapped, mugged, and enslaved many a times and never LTARP'd so don't get it twisted.

 

But while we're bringing attention to rule breaking, I guess we can speak about how ya left me restrained in NCR base for half an hour while you enslaved the other 2 PA online at the time and had to wait the entire time for their enslavement to be over for one of them to untie me.

Edit: I'll take blame in shooting y'all, that is my fault for not really paying much attention or realizing I was stripped. It was early morning PST, I was listening to music and editing a google doc so my attention wasn't completely focused on the game unfortunately and I didn't notice that you stripped my weapons so that's definitely on me.

Ok so in this situation i'd say just a warning however and this is important just gonna spill it out. 2 things.

1. A low playercount does not mean you can break the rules. Anyone who think's that are stupid and are bound to get banned or a player report on them, just because they did something to you before, dont mean you can break the rules when they try to do something. The left ziptied you should of clipped it, contacted a staff member or made a player report.

2. The staff team received another clip of you doing the same thing only days after. So you saying "I've never LTARP'd, been kidnapped, mugged" Is a lie even though I hate to admit it. Just so you know if this gets accepted or denied, the clip we got of you doing the same thing the second time days after this happened will Impact on you getting a warning or a ban.

thats all

[Mybedissoft]

On 7/6/2024 at 3:47 PM, Unity said:

Ok so in this situation i'd say just a warning however and this is important just gonna spill it out. 2 things.

1. A low playercount does not mean you can break the rules. Anyone who think's that are stupid and are bound to get banned or a player report on them, just because they did something to you before, dont mean you can break the rules when they try to do something. The left ziptied you should of clipped it, contacted a staff member or made a player report.

2. The staff team received another clip of you doing the same thing only days after. So you saying "I've never LTARP'd, been kidnapped, mugged" Is a lie even though I hate to admit it. Just so you know if this gets accepted or denied, the clip we got of you doing the same thing the second time days after this happened will Impact on you getting a warning or a ban.

thats all

I never said anything about a low player count meaning rules can be broken so no idea why you're saying that like that's what I said.

I also don't know what you're talking about when saying "staff team received another clip of me doing the same thing only days after" when the next time I hopped on the server was the last time I was on, when everyone in the server was having a free for all and there certainly wasn't any kidnapping/mugging or roleplay happening in order to leave to avoid rp to begin with.

So forgive me but I very doubt another clip just popped out of thin air and somehow has correlation to me.

I'm forthcoming enough to own up to something that I've done wrong (like shooting them when I didn't notice he had stripped comms) but I ain't a pushover that'll sit here taking accusations for something I know for a fact that I didn't do.

Feel free to post this "other clip of me doing the same thing".

The server logs can easily be checked to verify as well.

 

Edited July 7, 2024 at 06:30 PM by Mybedissoft

[Mybedissoft]

On 7/5/2024 at 10:22 AM, Nirvan86 said:

A lower player count doesn't make breaking the rules allowed, I was kidnapped and mugged when there were only 5 players on but I didn't ruin other people's fun and went on with the roleplay. Downtime isn't a good excuse for breaking the rules.

I don't see how I can resolve him breaking FearRp with no staff members on, I called a sit and waited for 30 minutes but after no response, I decided to make a player report, I don't see what I could have done differently. As for him crashing, He crashed right as soon as I knocked him out which seemed suspicious in my opinion so I added it to the player report.

Many people haven't had a single negative interaction with the staff team such as myself and others, And I don't think making the excuse that "everyone has done it once so it's fine" is valid.

Nobody is making excuses for rule breaking, you say you called and waited 30mins for staff but ya didn't do that when I crashed so you could've legit seen me come back?

And I didn't crash when you knocked me out, you didn't knock me out, didn't even swing at me lol. I crashed while you were still in my inventory with nothing to steal, that much can be seen in your clip. Just like you didn't inform me that I was stripped via voice chat like you said you did, both clips you provided show the exact opposite of both of those statements so no idea why you're saying things that definitely didn't happen but alright.

[Shepherd]

Denied.