bonk Posted May 19, 2024 at 12:30 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 12:30 PM On 5/19/2024 at 8:26 AM, Kaz said: But what about mutants LOL didnt see em in the war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonk Posted May 19, 2024 at 12:33 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 12:33 PM in addition the only reason we joined the war is pretty much because the other side was made out of hostile factions, mainly wbos, and we dont rlly give a fuck who was on our side as long as the steel infidels were dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unity Posted May 19, 2024 at 12:59 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 12:59 PM On 5/19/2024 at 1:33 PM, bonk said: in addition the only reason we joined the war is pretty much because the other side was made out of hostile factions, mainly wbos, and we dont rlly give a fuck who was on our side as long as the steel infidels were dead NCR mutants was in the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unity Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:05 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:05 PM On 5/19/2024 at 7:32 AM, Solarr said: Outcasts... The exiles from Brotherhood of Steel, who work with the Brotherhood of Steel. What sort of compromised, idiotic, and nonsensical relation/roleplay is that? Tbf every single outcast faction did have BOS as a Permanent enemy due to RP standards, this is legit the first outcast custom faction to be "friendly" towards BOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unity Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:06 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:06 PM On 5/18/2024 at 10:25 PM, Eopsin said: As for balance in terms of our relations, which for some reason was touched on here, I know for a fact the original plan with the BOS was to either make them adopt the codex of the Outcasts (and thus be a friendly chapter), or fail to adopt it, and be sworn enemies. They, in a very unexpected move, actually adopted our codex and changed their relations around quite substantially, resulting in a, in my opinion, more interesting server landscape. Cores actually following a mission and having clear RP rules and goals is always more interesting than everyone abandoning everything to get as many allies as possible. So you made the BOS adopt your codex.... So what's the point in having the outcasts around literally whats the point you've done your main goal no? All im saying is in Fallout that would mean the outcasts would of remerged with the BOS so.... Kinda shit RP cant lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unity Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:09 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:09 PM On 5/19/2024 at 5:14 AM, Eopsin said: Outcasts have shaken up the political standings of factions. Well done, you added another faction that helped the Dogpile of WBOS, wow shaken the climate you have, divide will never be the same again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonk Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:19 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:19 PM On 5/19/2024 at 9:05 AM, Unity said: Tbf every single outcast faction did have BOS as a Permanent enemy due to RP standards, this is legit the first outcast custom faction to be "friendly" towards BOS you clearly didnt play here in 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAM Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:24 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 01:24 PM On 5/19/2024 at 8:19 AM, bonk said: you clearly didnt play here in 2.0 They didn't really add anything there either because bos and outcast was on the same page then as well. Not sure if that's the causes it to die out and was removed but I would imagine took a big part in it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shephard Posted May 19, 2024 at 02:40 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 02:40 PM Outcasts is when no allies cause all factions violate your faction ideals to some extent. By this logic, a lot of factions would have no allies then, when the reality is that it's better to have allies than to not have allies and every faction practices this on the server "sure they may break our factions ideals, but it's better to have them fight at our side than against us". It's shit logic and it's pure baby-rage instead of attempting to have a discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synth Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:10 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:10 PM On 5/19/2024 at 2:33 AM, Eopsin said: the new base isn't some sort of outcast exclusive crazy how when it got added it was specially reserved for westtek/outcasts and wbos couldnt claim it even tho they wanted to... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army240 Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:20 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:20 PM On 5/19/2024 at 4:10 PM, Synth said: crazy how when it got added it was specially reserved for westtek/outcasts and wbos couldnt claim it even tho they wanted to... hi outcast owner here, just wanted to point out it was infact first come first serve, and i was infact first their, i loaded in before literally anyone else and infact claimed the base, we where under no illusion of it being "for us" or "reserved" for us, we simply got their first, if you personally feel that it was reserved, then i hope to clear up and make it clear it was not, thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearsome Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:21 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:21 PM People act like its a lore problem here and not 40 dmg base automatics with 50 shots and a 2 second reload 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army240 Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:24 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:24 PM On 5/18/2024 at 7:30 PM, Kaz said: Fingers crossed you're right. And I believe you but you gotta understand. People have done in the past yknow? and just to ease your tensions, i've never said i would charge back, i would talk to SC about how to come to an agreement sure, but charging back isn't something i intend to do or plan on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army240 Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:29 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:29 PM On 5/19/2024 at 1:03 PM, Kaz said: You guys assisted NCR yesterday in a war. They have GHOULS and MUTANTS. You guys are a custom and can do what you want but. You have 0 excuses anymore. No codex. No RP lets jump down this rabbit hole for just one second We assisted ncr yes, against WBOS, a disgrace to the codex and everything we stand for in our eyes, and legion, who decided instead of having normal talks with us, to kidnap one of ours, force talks, threaten to destroy us, and then act surprised when we don't take kindly to it, just like other customs and cores would do, we joined against our common foe This doesn't make us friends with the NCR, it is infact fighting a common foe, if you have an issue with how that works, that we can look at a larger picture, then im sorry you feel that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army240 Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:33 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:33 PM On 5/19/2024 at 2:05 PM, Unity said: Tbf every single outcast faction did have BOS as a Permanent enemy due to RP standards, this is legit the first outcast custom faction to be "friendly" towards BOS we expected BOS to die on their hill, instead to our surprise, they came down the hill and where open to talks and a path towards co-operation, they actually talked it out, rp'ed and continue to do so, this doesn't make us allies, we are neutral, anyone is welcome to approach us with proof that bos is infact found wanting and disgracing the codex, then things will change and when Nat gets back, things will most likely change, and if it does? then so be it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:44 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 03:44 PM On 5/19/2024 at 8:03 AM, Kaz said: You guys assisted NCR yesterday in a war. They have GHOULS and MUTANTS. You guys are a custom and can do what you want but. You have 0 excuses anymore. No codex. No RP All this "RP" nonsense is stupid, we all know that the server barely follows the actual game lore. Outcasts being neutral with BOS is a problem, but NCR and Unity being allies isn't? NCR and Unity have the complete opposite morals and there is no reason for them to be allied together IF we are following the LORE of Fallout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz Posted May 19, 2024 at 04:42 PM Author Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 04:42 PM On 5/19/2024 at 4:21 PM, Fearsome said: People act like its a lore problem here and not 40 dmg base automatics with 50 shots and a 2 second reload If i'm being honest. I probably shouldn't have brought it up (i didnt know thats all they would focus on) Its just stupid that they go to such great lengths to justify what can't be justified. When Payne eventually denies this (which he almost certainly will) I will not include it in the next post. I just dont have access to gear specifics. They are a custom and can do what they want with there relations (you just cant justify it). Its the hypocrisy that bugs me. BUT LETS GET BACK ON TOPIC BOYS! YOUR GEAR NEEDS CHANGED! But I suppose you lads cant talk about that because there is no justifying how OP your shit is. Apart from the CASH you spunked away. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Posted May 19, 2024 at 04:44 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 04:44 PM On 5/19/2024 at 10:10 AM, Synth said: crazy how when it got added it was specially reserved for westtek/outcasts and wbos couldnt claim it even tho they wanted to... That's because I shot them. That's it we fairly ambushed them and claimed the base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epsilon Posted May 19, 2024 at 06:42 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 06:42 PM Locking this for now, we’ll be taking a fair approach to this and speaking with both Outcasts HC / Management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Payne Posted May 19, 2024 at 11:26 PM Share Posted May 19, 2024 at 11:26 PM On 5/19/2024 at 12:42 PM, Kaz said: When Payne eventually denies this (which he almost certainly will) I will not include it in the next post. oh brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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